PFD report

Matthew Karl Hatfield and Darren Paul Neilson · Prevention of Future Deaths report

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Issued 18 Jul 2018•Birmingham and Solihull

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Published report and response evidence

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Concerns
3

Raised in this report

Recipients
2

Named on the report

Responses found
2

Of 2 recipients

Stated actions
15

Described in responses

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Concerns and recipient responses

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Report evidence summary

Concerns raised3

  1. Failure to maintain up-to-date knowledge of tank status on the range
    Part of recurring concern: Failure to maintain current tank-status information for live firing exercises
  2. Lack of soldier clarity about Prove The Gun drill timing and terminology
    Part of recurring concern: Unreliable Prove The Gun drill procedures
  3. Failure of risk assessments to actively consider drills and identify hazards during manufacture
Responses linked to these concerns

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Actions described in response An action is something a recipient says it has done, is doing, or plans to do in response to a concern raised.4

  1. Action

    Review Land Systems Safety Cases with Front Line Commands and other relevant parties using proportionate risk-assessment methodologies and documented rationale.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  2. Action

    Implement revised AESPs clarifying when to prove the gun and requiring specific checks for the BVA, obturator and shim.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  3. Action

    Train all CR2 crews in the revised drills and procedures, incorporating the prove-the-gun drill into Weapons Handling Tests and assuring training through sampled retesting.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.

Respondent positions A position is what a recipient says about a concern when it does not describe a specific action.4

  1. Position

    The MoD is responsible for the specific content of army drills, although those drills would be considered in any design process.

    Stated by BAE SystemsRedirects responsibilityThe respondent said that another organisation was responsible for deciding or taking action.

Source evidence

How this individual concern was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the report wording shown below. Response links show a clear evidence connection; they do not assign responsibility.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Failure to maintain up-to-date knowledge of tank status on the range

Wider context from the report

“2. One of the contributing factors to this tragedy was that the RCO, the person in charge of the live firing exercise, did not know the state of the tanks on the range and therefore allocated a stripped down tank for a live firing exercise. I remain concerned that it is vital that the person in charge of such exercises has up to date knowledge about the status of the tanks on the range. The MOD should look at what communication can be put in place to ensure the RCO is in fact in charge and has all the correct information to make decisions during the exercise. ”

Is this part of a recurring concern?

Yes — Failure to maintain current tank-status information for live firing exercises.

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Source evidence

How this individual concern was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the report wording shown below. Response links show a clear evidence connection; they do not assign responsibility.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Lack of soldier clarity about Prove The Gun drill timing and terminology

Wider context from the report

“1. I remain concerned that soldiers are not clear about when to use the Prove The Gun drill and the meaning of the word “work” in the drill. This was supported by the evidence of ████████ who stated there was still a lack of clarity. The MOD should ensure that soldiers are clear about the meaning of the word work in the drill and when the drill should be undertaken. ”

Is this part of a recurring concern?

Yes — Unreliable Prove The Gun drill procedures.

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Source evidence

How this individual concern was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the report wording shown below. Response links show a clear evidence connection; they do not assign responsibility.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Failure of risk assessments to actively consider drills and identify hazards during manufacture

Wider context from the report

“3. ████████ from the HSE confirmed that had applied advanced or developed risk assessment techniques when undertaken then it would have been identified in the design and manufacture of the gun that it could fire without the BVA assembly present when undertaking the TVEDU red drill. BAE and the MOD should look at their process to ensure that their risk assessments are suitable and importantly that drills are actively considered when assessing risk and identifying hazards during manufacture. ”

Is this part of a recurring concern?

No recurring-concern membership is currently published.

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Review Land Systems Safety Cases with Front Line Commands and other relevant parties using proportionate risk-assessment methodologies and documented rationale.

Verbatim wording from the response

“c. The need to review all Land Systems Safety Cases in conjunction with the Front Line Command and other interested parties to ensure that we are using the appropriate risk assessment methodology, proportionate to the level of the risk and further ensuring that this is documented with the supporting rationale.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 9 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Implement revised AESPs clarifying when to prove the gun and requiring specific checks for the BVA, obturator and shim.

Verbatim wording from the response

“The SEMP reviewed the procedures in the Army Equipment Support Publications (“AESPs”) ‘2350-P-102-201 – Tank, Combat, 120mm Gun Challenger 2 – Operating Information’ and ‘2350-P-102-601 – Tank, Combat, 120mm Gun Challenger 2 - Maintenance Schedule’. The SEMP concluded that had the extant procedures detailed in the AESPs been followed, the absence of the obturator assembly (consisting of the Bolt Vent Axial, thrust housing and shim) would have been identified. However, it also concluded that the accident could be repeatable and there were areas where procedures could be adjusted to reduce the risk of a re-occurrence of the accident. The SEMP directed that:”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 2 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Train all CR2 crews in the revised drills and procedures, incorporating the prove-the-gun drill into Weapons Handling Tests and assuring training through sampled retesting.

Verbatim wording from the response

“The panel of gunnery SMEs recommended specific adjustments to the AESPs. These recommendations were presented to the SEMP, examined in detail and then endorsed. The changes have been fully implemented in to the current AESPs and all documents which support the delivery of training. Prior to implementation, the AFVTTS School’s Instructors tested the new drills and procedures. The new procedures were then cascaded down to Regimental”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 2 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Commission and complete FMECA, physical-safety-mechanism feasibility, and human-factors analyses for the CR2 main armament.

Verbatim wording from the response

“As discussed previously, the SEMP directed, as part of their recommendations, that BAES be tasked by DE&S to explore the viability of a physical or electronic safety mechanism to prevent the gun being fired when the obturator assembly was not fitted. This task was placed on BAES in August 2017 and the BAES response was received by DE&S on the 26 June 2018. BAES were directed to:”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 7 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

The MoD is responsible for the specific content of army drills, although those drills would be considered in any design process.

Verbatim wording from the response

“We can also confirm that any such design or assessment of design would take account of the foreseeable use of the armament in practice, which would incorporate the army drills for training and operations. The specific content of those drills is obviously a matter for the MoD but they would be considered as part of any design process. However as explained above, such a gun designed today in accordance with the relevant Standard should not be able to fire at all if a component of the obturation system is missing.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-BAE-Systems
Page 2 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Crew responsibility, training, revised drills and repeated component checks make the risk of firing without safety-critical components acceptably low.

Verbatim wording from the response

“The Army judges that any potential risk presented by the RCO not being aware of the state of tanks on the range is ALARP. As indicated above the revised drills and procedures ensure that there is no scenario in which a crew could proceed to fire the main gun without first having completed the ‘prove the gun’ drill which mandates a specific check for the presence of the BVA, obturator and shim (Paragraph 6.19). Even if the ‘prove the gun’ drill was not adequately completed the presence of the BVA, obturator and shim would be checked again upon ‘going to action’ and if necessary again upon receiving a ‘TVEDU – Red Indication or No Display’ (an inevitable consequence if the BVA is missing).”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 6 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Requiring the RCO to keep contemporaneous tank-status records or maintain a centrally managed system would be impractical and distract from range safety duties.

Verbatim wording from the response

“It is essential that the RCO is focused on delivering a safe live firing exercise. Any requirements for the RCO to keep contemporaneous records on the state of the tanks would detract from his focus on the safety of the range as a whole.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 5 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

The revised drills and procedures provide clarity about when the “prove the gun” drill must be completed, so no lack of clarity remains.

Verbatim wording from the response

“The SEMP and the panel of SME’s convened at the AFVTTs Gunnery Wing consider that the changes made to the AESPs have reduced the risk to a level which is as low as reasonably practicable (“ALARP”). All CR2 crews are appropriately trained, there is no lack of clarity about when drill must be completed, the delivery of that training and the crew’s understanding of that training is appropriately assured and any risk of reoccurrence is ALARP.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 5 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Other statements in published responses

These actions and other statements could not be clearly connected to one concern in this report.

Recipient-stated actions An action is something a recipient says it has done, is doing, or plans to do in response to a concern raised.11

  1. 1

    Develop a design solution with the MoD to eliminate recurrence risk and update the Challenger 2 gun to the applicable standard.

    Stated by BAE SystemsStated in progressThe respondent said that this action was in progress when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  2. 2

    Assess the effectiveness of all obturation controls, including the potential for human failure.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated in progressThe respondent said that this action was in progress when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  3. 3

    Review the CR2 operating hazards before lifting the firing bans.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  4. 4

    Review how significant-risk mitigations relying on human controls are documented and consider additional technical mitigations.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  5. 5

    Review heavy weapon systems for potential obturation failures and identify whether additional systems require action.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  6. 6

    Implement repeated BVA, obturator and shim checks during loading, going to action, and TVEDU fault procedures before firing.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  7. 7

    Order and maintain a ban on 120mm training ammunition and L30A1 firing until revised safety controls were implemented and assured.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  8. 8

    Obtain candid crew feedback on behaviour and perceptions of their safety role in high-risk situations.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  9. 9

    Develop additional safety-mechanism options and decide which designs, if any, should proceed to further development and testing.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated in progressThe respondent said that this action was in progress when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  10. 10

    Ensure future Land Systems procurement considers obturation risks through appropriate safety documentation, including FMECA requirements.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated in progressThe respondent said that this action was in progress when they made their response on 23 September 2018.
  11. 11

    Introduce red “Do not use” covers over gun breeches during maintenance and provide sufficient covers for tanks in daily use.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 23 September 2018.

Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Develop a design solution with the MoD to eliminate recurrence risk and update the Challenger 2 gun to the applicable standard.

Verbatim wording from the response

“While the concern expressed in your letter was to cover future designs, after the incident in June 2017 the MoD and BAE Systems are developing a design solution to eliminate the risk of this happening again and to bring the current Challenger 2 gun up to date with the Standard outlined above. At the inquest two potential engineering solutions to prevent the gun being fired without the BVA Assembly being proven were highlighted. Following the inquest two additional proposals are now also being considered further. Progress on all four solutions will be reviewed by the MoD Challenger 2 Safety and Environmental Management Panel in October 2018.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-BAE-Systems
Page 2 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Assess the effectiveness of all obturation controls, including the potential for human failure.

Verbatim wording from the response

“As above, two design options were identified that could potentially provide safe and reliable mechanisms to prevent the gun being fired without the BVA being fitted. However, following further review of the BAES report and discussion with a wider stakeholder group, including the user community, work is now under way to:”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 8 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Review the CR2 operating hazards before lifting the firing bans.

Verbatim wording from the response

“(iv) The hazard log for CR2 to be reviewed.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 2 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Review how significant-risk mitigations relying on human controls are documented and consider additional technical mitigations.

Verbatim wording from the response

“From a wider safety perspective, it is worth noting that we have, through this process, identified three systemic issues that we are now working to resolve across DE&S. These are:”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 8 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Review heavy weapon systems for potential obturation failures and identify whether additional systems require action.

Verbatim wording from the response

“Furthermore, in response to advice offered by the HSE during our ongoing engagement relating to this incident and their investigation, the Land Domain² have reviewed all heavy weapon systems for the potential failure of obturation. The review concluded that AS90 is the only other system using ‘rear obturation’, but due to the design it is physically impossible to fire without the obturator fitted. This is consistent with the findings of the related Service Inquiry³.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 8 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Implement repeated BVA, obturator and shim checks during loading, going to action, and TVEDU fault procedures before firing.

Verbatim wording from the response

“Further checks and assurances have been implemented to ensure that the main gun cannot be fired without the BVA:”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 4 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Order and maintain a ban on 120mm training ammunition and L30A1 firing until revised safety controls were implemented and assured.

Verbatim wording from the response

“Immediately following the tragic accident, a ban on all 120mm training ammunition natures was ordered by Defence General Munitions (“DGM”). Once all live fire training on Challenger 2 (“CR2”) tanks was halted, an Extraordinary Safety and Environmental Management Panel (“SEMP”) was convened. The SEMP held a series of four extraordinary meetings (20 June, 12 July, 24 July and 4 August 2017) to investigate the incident. These meetings were chaired by the then Brigadier (now Major General) ████████ in his role at the time as Land Equipment Vehicle Support Team Leader in Defence Equipment and Support (“DE&S”).”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 1 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Obtain candid crew feedback on behaviour and perceptions of their safety role in high-risk situations.

Verbatim wording from the response

“b. The need of the MOD to get honest feedback on the behaviour of the crew and their opinion on their role in safety, particularly when operating in high risk situations; and”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 8 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Develop additional safety-mechanism options and decide which designs, if any, should proceed to further development and testing.

Verbatim wording from the response

“As above, two design options were identified that could potentially provide safe and reliable mechanisms to prevent the gun being fired without the BVA being fitted. However, following further review of the BAES report and discussion with a wider stakeholder group, including the user community, work is now under way to:”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 8 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Ensure future Land Systems procurement considers obturation risks through appropriate safety documentation, including FMECA requirements.

Verbatim wording from the response

“Work is also in hand to ensure that future procurement of all Land Systems considers these matters fully. As a direct example CR2 Life Extension Programme has a requirement for a FMECA to be produced during the Assessment Phase as part of the wider Safety Documentation set required by the MOD.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 8 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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Source evidence

How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Introduce red “Do not use” covers over gun breeches during maintenance and provide sufficient covers for tanks in daily use.

Verbatim wording from the response

“In addition to the above drills a ‘Do not use’ cover has been introduced. This cover which is red in colour is now placed over the breach of the gun during maintenance (i.e. if any part of the gun is removed, including the BVA) to provide a very clear indication that the gun is in an unsafe state. Any oncoming crew would be immediately aware that the gun was not ready to fire and would not conduct further investigation until the reason for the cover being present is identified and rectified. These changes are highlighted throughout the AESPs. As of 26 July 2018, there are sufficient covers to meet the requirement for the circa 107 tanks that are in daily use across the Army.”

Source location

2018-0231-Response-by-Ministry-of-Defence
Page 6 · response
Published 23 September 2018

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