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Captain Tom Sawyer and Corporal Danny Winters · Prevention of Future Deaths report

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Issued 16 Mar 2015•Wiltshire and Swindon

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Concerns raised1

  1. Lack of reliable, complete records of radio communications
Responses linked to these concerns

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Actions described in response An action is something a recipient says it has done, is doing, or plans to do in response to a concern raised.2

  1. Action

    Develop policy determining when and how automated voice-logging capability will be used in future.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 16 March 2015.
  2. Action

    Investigate the scope and implications of automated secure voice logging during the tactical communications programme’s Assessment phase.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 16 March 2015.

Respondent positions A position is what a recipient says about a concern when it does not describe a specific action.2

  1. Position

    The Army Chief Information Officer will determine when and how future voice-recording capability is used.

    Stated by Ministry of DefenceRedirects responsibilityThe respondent said that another organisation was responsible for deciding or taking action.

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PFD Monitor interpretation

Lack of reliable, complete records of radio communications

Wider context from the report

“As I indicated in Court I find it hard to understand that in the 21st Century that there is still a huge amount of dependence on hand written radio logs in respect of which “Coms” are recorded subject to the judgement of that particular signaller relative to the skills of that signaller in recognising what is relevant and what is not. One of the objectives of a Coronial Inquest where especially Article 2 is engaged, as was the case in this Inquest, is to consider matters with a view to the prevention of future deaths and of course this is an area which overlaps between my Coronial function and that of a Service Inquiry. The absence of records/logs in relation to the FIRESNET in my view was not helpful in getting to the bottom of what went wrong especially as regards the communication between Tom, as a Forward Artillery Observer with Zulu Company, and his Danish counterpart “Soldier I”. I found that on a balance of probabilities that something a step away from express instruction to fire was said by Tom to Soldier I which was then mutating when he relayed the signal to his colleague Soldier A, located on the rooftop of the compound providing over the watch where of cause the Javelin detachment which fired the Javelin missile was located. It was Soldier A who gave the order to fire. I found on the balance of probabilities that there was ineffective communication between Soldier I and Soldier A. Investigating such matters requires the best evidence available and as regards current technology I am surprised that there is not the ability at least at one end of the radio communications network to for example, securely digitally record the encrypted signals along the lines of say a cockpit voice recorder. For security reasons such recordings could then be decrypted and made available to any subsequent investigation that needs to be carried out. I fully appreciate that such a system may not be appropriate for those actually on the ground for reasons of additional weight but it was clear to me that communications were being monitored back at the Forward Operating Bases and that perhaps may be a location where communications being monitored/relayed could be recorded at the same time. It may be the case that technology would allow some form of recording say on a 2 hour loop on equipment given to soldiers on the ground but as I said earlier I am conscious of the amount of weight soldiers on the ground have to carry in respect of their combat kit and weapon. It is worth noting that Tom and Danny’s respective families were also concerned as regards the absence of FIRESNET logs. Monitoring of the BATTLE GROUP NET in such a way would have also been helpful although there were some logs in relation to communications over this net. The benefit of having accurate records of communications bolsters the integrity and thoroughness of any investigation and may have highlighted matters warranting further consideration with the view to the prevention of future deaths. I am sure that such a system would be beneficial to future investigations aimed at the prevention of future deaths. ”

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How this respondent action was interpreted

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PFD Monitor interpretation

Develop policy determining when and how automated voice-logging capability will be used in future.

Verbatim wording from the response

“In terms of our future capabilities, the next generation of tactical command, control and communications system for Defence includes a requirement that “The [User] shall be able to access an automated secure voice log of their primary net.” The full scope of this requirement and its implications will be investigated during the Assessment phase of the programme in the period up to 2018, but it is unlikely that this will include the ability to record all communication networks all the time due to practical limitations. Policy will therefore be developed by the newly appointed Army Chief Information Officer to determine when and how such a capability will be used in the future. I have ensured that your concerns have been passed to him.”

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2015-0100-Response-by-MOD
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How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Investigate the scope and implications of automated secure voice logging during the tactical communications programme’s Assessment phase.

Verbatim wording from the response

“In terms of our future capabilities, the next generation of tactical command, control and communications system for Defence includes a requirement that “The [User] shall be able to access an automated secure voice log of their primary net.” The full scope of this requirement and its implications will be investigated during the Assessment phase of the programme in the period up to 2018, but it is unlikely that this will include the ability to record all communication networks all the time due to practical limitations. Policy will therefore be developed by the newly appointed Army Chief Information Officer to determine when and how such a capability will be used in the future. I have ensured that your concerns have been passed to him.”

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2015-0100-Response-by-MOD
Page 1 · response
Published 16 March 2015

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How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

The Army Chief Information Officer will determine when and how future voice-recording capability is used.

Verbatim wording from the response

“In terms of our future capabilities, the next generation of tactical command, control and communications system for Defence includes a requirement that “The [User] shall be able to access an automated secure voice log of their primary net.” The full scope of this requirement and its implications will be investigated during the Assessment phase of the programme in the period up to 2018, but it is unlikely that this will include the ability to record all communication networks all the time due to practical limitations. Policy will therefore be developed by the newly appointed Army Chief Information Officer to determine when and how such a capability will be used in the future. I have ensured that your concerns have been passed to him.”

Source location

2015-0100-Response-by-MOD
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Published 16 March 2015

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How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Recording all communication networks continuously is unlikely due to practical limitations.

Verbatim wording from the response

“In terms of our future capabilities, the next generation of tactical command, control and communications system for Defence includes a requirement that “The [User] shall be able to access an automated secure voice log of their primary net.” The full scope of this requirement and its implications will be investigated during the Assessment phase of the programme in the period up to 2018, but it is unlikely that this will include the ability to record all communication networks all the time due to practical limitations. Policy will therefore be developed by the newly appointed Army Chief Information Officer to determine when and how such a capability will be used in the future. I have ensured that your concerns have been passed to him.”

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2015-0100-Response-by-MOD
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Published 16 March 2015

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