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Muhammad Esmael and Naemat Esmael · Prevention of Future Deaths report

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Issued 22 Nov 2024•Swansea and Neath Port Talbot

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Concerns
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Recipients
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Responses found
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Stated actions
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Concerns and recipient responses

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Report evidence summary

Concerns raised2

  1. Failure to preserve fire scenes until all instructed investigations are completed
    Part of recurring concern: Failure to retain safety-critical source records and evidencePart of recurring concern: Unreliable police investigative evidence gathering
  2. Insufficient mandated fire protection for fires starting in individual rooms in rented accommodation
Responses linked to these concerns

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  1. Action

    Consider the Regulation 28 report alongside independent evaluation findings and use them to decide whether changes to the current regulations are required.

    Stated by Welsh GovernmentStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 26 November 2024.
  2. Action

    Support Welsh Government proposals to enhance fire-alarm coverage in domestic dwellings.

    Stated by Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue ServiceStated plannedThe respondent said that this action was planned when they made their response on 26 November 2024.
  3. Action

    Raise the case for increasing smoke-alarm coverage with the All Wales Community Risk Reduction Committee.

    Stated by Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue ServiceStated completedThe respondent said that this action was complete when they made their response on 26 November 2024.

Respondent positions A position is what a recipient says about a concern when it does not describe a specific action.4

  1. Position

    Operational matters concerning scene items and inter-service working are for South Wales Police and Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service.

    Stated by Welsh GovernmentRedirects responsibilityThe respondent said that another organisation was responsible for deciding or taking action.

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PFD Monitor interpretation

Failure to preserve fire scenes until all instructed investigations are completed

Wider context from the report

“I heard that certain items within the bedroom where the fire started, including a console unit and electrical items, were removed before they could be fully inspected in situ by the Chartered Electrical Engineer instructed to investigate the cause of the fire. I am told that the items were removed by the Crime Scene Investigators from South Wales Police in circumstances where the Fire Service had exercised its powers under section 45 of the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004 and had commenced an investigation which was aimed at determining the point of origin, cause and behaviour of the fire at ████████. The Chartered Electrical Engineer expert told me that he was unable to provide me with any assistance on the cause of the fire because the items had been removed from the scene and because he had only been able to view photographs. It was this Expert’s opinion that it would have been preferable if the items had remained in position at the property to enable him to inspect them in situ. I am concerned that items were removed from the scene before all inspections were completed and that this may have prevented me and indeed the Fire Service investigators from determining the cause of this fire. I am concerned either that there may not be a sufficiently robust protocol in place between South Wales Police and the Fire Service on preserving a scene to ensure a full investigation takes place and / or that if there is such a protocol it may not have been followed in this instance. If coroners and investigators are unable to determine the cause of a fire because the scene has not been preserved for as long as required to ensure a full in situ investigation by all instructed investigators, then this prevents lessons from being learnt about the cause of a fire which in turn means there is a continuing risk to life. ”

Is this part of a recurring concern?

Yes — Failure to retain safety-critical source records and evidence; Unreliable police investigative evidence gathering.

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How this individual concern was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the report wording shown below. Response links show a clear evidence connection; they do not assign responsibility.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Insufficient mandated fire protection for fires starting in individual rooms in rented accommodation

Wider context from the report

“I heard evidence during the inquest that two working smoke alarms were not activated by this fire which occurred in a residential Council owned property and which led to the deaths of two individuals. I heard that this may have happened because the fire was contained in a bedroom with the door closed. I heard evidence that Welsh Government legislation (Renting Homes (Wales) Act 2016 implemented by The Renting Homes (Fitness for Human Habitation) Wales Regulations 2022) only requires rented properties to be, inter alia, fitted with two hard wired smoke alarms and that separately, sprinkler systems are only mandated in new build properties or properties undergoing alterations (Domestic Fire Safety (Wales) Measure 2011). I heard that smoke alarms in hallways only safeguard communal areas and the means of escape in a fire and that they do not provide adequate protection to mitigate against the risk to life from fires which start in individual rooms, including bedrooms. I heard that sprinkler systems are expensive for Councils and landlords to fit but that they are very successful in controlling fires and reducing fatalities from fires in properties. I also heard that hard wired smoke alarms are less expensive to fit but would still be beyond the budget of a local Council with a significant property portfolio, which is the case here. I heard that smoke alarms provide the best protection against the risk to life posed by fire in domestic and other properties. I am concerned that only mandating two smoke alarms in rented accommodation means that there is a continuing risk to life from fire in such accommodation. ”

Is this part of a recurring concern?

No recurring-concern membership is currently published.

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How this respondent action was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Consider the Regulation 28 report alongside independent evaluation findings and use them to decide whether changes to the current regulations are required.

Verbatim wording from the response

“Although the Welsh Government keeps all legislation under review, the 2016 Act is additionally subject to a three-year independent evaluation. This is considering all aspects of the legislation and the Phase 1 report has indicated a good awareness of the requirements in the Regulations, with landlords, agents and contract-holders all commenting on the increased provision of smoke alarms and the other preventative measures. Phase 2 of the evaluation is currently nearing completion and Phase 3, which will report in 2025, will consider the overall impact of the 2016 Act, including the Regulations. The findings of your Regulation 28 report will be considered alongside the ongoing findings from the independent evaluation and will inform a decision as to whether any changes to the current regulations are required.”

Source location

Response from Welsh Government
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Published 26 November 2024

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How this respondent action was interpreted

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PFD Monitor interpretation

Support Welsh Government proposals to enhance fire-alarm coverage in domestic dwellings.

Verbatim wording from the response

“Action Proposed: Mid & West Wales Fire and Rescue Service will support any proposals for legislative enhancement by the Welsh Government in regard of fire alarm coverage in domestic dwellings.”

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Response from Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service
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Published 26 November 2024

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How this respondent action was interpreted

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PFD Monitor interpretation

Raise the case for increasing smoke-alarm coverage with the All Wales Community Risk Reduction Committee.

Verbatim wording from the response

“With regard to the first MATTER OF CONCERN. Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service support the notion that only mandating two smoke alarms in [domestic] accommodation means that there is a continuing risk to life from fire. The Service has previously raised this matter with the Welsh Government via the All Wales Community Risk Reduction Committee, where the Service proposed increasing smoke alarm coverage to the highest standard in all new build premises in Wales and would equally support this enhancement of provision in rented accommodation. This will require a change to existing legislation and/or Building Regulations guidance which can only be undertaken by the Welsh Government.”

Source location

Response from Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service
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Published 26 November 2024

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How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Operational matters concerning scene items and inter-service working are for South Wales Police and Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service.

Verbatim wording from the response

“I am responding in relation to the first Matter of Concern raised in your Report, regarding the provision of smoke alarms within rented accommodation. The second Matter of Concern relates to the possible removal by South Wales Police (SWP) of relevant items from the scene of the fire, and to the working relationship between SWP and Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service (MWWFRS). Those are operational matters for SWP and MWWFRS over which the Welsh Government has no control; as such there is no action we can take which would address this concern. However, I note your Report has also been issued to the Head of Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service and I understand that he will respond on that Matter.”

Source location

Response from Welsh Government
Page 1 · response
Published 26 November 2024

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How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

The Welsh Government has no control over operational scene and inter-service matters and cannot take action addressing them.

Verbatim wording from the response

“I am responding in relation to the first Matter of Concern raised in your Report, regarding the provision of smoke alarms within rented accommodation. The second Matter of Concern relates to the possible removal by South Wales Police (SWP) of relevant items from the scene of the fire, and to the working relationship between SWP and Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service (MWWFRS). Those are operational matters for SWP and MWWFRS over which the Welsh Government has no control; as such there is no action we can take which would address this concern. However, I note your Report has also been issued to the Head of Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service and I understand that he will respond on that Matter.”

Source location

Response from Welsh Government
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Published 26 November 2024

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How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Welsh Government must undertake legislative or Building Regulations changes needed to enhance domestic fire alarm coverage.

Verbatim wording from the response

“With regard to the first MATTER OF CONCERN. Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service support the notion that only mandating two smoke alarms in [domestic] accommodation means that there is a continuing risk to life from fire. The Service has previously raised this matter with the Welsh Government via the All Wales Community Risk Reduction Committee, where the Service proposed increasing smoke alarm coverage to the highest standard in all new build premises in Wales and would equally support this enhancement of provision in rented accommodation. This will require a change to existing legislation and/or Building Regulations guidance which can only be undertaken by the Welsh Government.”

Source location

Response from Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service
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Published 26 November 2024

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How this respondent position was interpreted

PFD Monitor created a concise, searchable interpretation from the published response wording shown below.

PFD Monitor interpretation

Police retain responsibility for scene management and decisions to remove or seize items in fatality or suspected-criminality fire investigations.

Verbatim wording from the response

“With regard to the second MATTER OF CONCERN. In fire cases involving fatalities or suspected criminality, the Police are the lead agency with primacy over the investigation. For incidents within its area, Mid & West Wales Fire and Rescue Service will often support the Police with their investigation alongside Crime Scene Investigators and forensic scientists commissioned by the Police, as in this case. A decision to remove items for laboratory testing is undertaken by the Senior Police Officer and any evidence subsequently seized is done under the authority offered by the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE).”

Source location

Response from Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service
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Published 26 November 2024

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